taxation and also we have to have cuts in spending. we have to do the cuts in spending over time because you do not want to endanger a very fragile economy. to respond directly to your question, why do i think the electorate looking at the present obama and cutting the debt in half, i think the answer is we went through a very difficult economic recession. some spending was in order. 50% of the debt or more in terms of spending on wars, prescription drug benefits and things not properly funded, and when you ask the american people about those things, they still blame president bush ii for the economic recession and for the debt more so than president obama. host: as far as the fiscal cliff, who will most likely make the next news story? guest: i think it has to be president obama. i think john boehner went through a devastating experience this last week when he called for a vote and did not have a vote. his troops abandoned him. it has been ongoing for a while, his relationship with some of these freshman. he is having a difficult time